I replaced the firing pin in about 1980 or 1985 and that is all that has ever been done to the gun. We found that inserting the slave rod through the hole in the front of the slide was the easiest. Joined: Feb 26, 2014 Messages: 326. Failing that, the same size, weight and operation. Cette arme pourra donc constituer un excellent pistolet d'entraînement pour qui possède déjà la version en 9x19 mm, ou tout simplement pour le tireur sportif cherchant un pistolet semi-automatique de calibre .22 … Like the Walther P22 WAP22003, now $379, Ruger’s SR22 is full of angles and bumps and slots, but not so many serrations. Yes, we envy you the availability of .22 rimfire, wish could share in your bounty. The windage was slick and handy, we found, and adjusted with relative ease.… We think anyone in need of a fine little .22 pistol that works every time and doesn’t bust the bank need look no farther than the short-barrel P22. They can provide fun on the trail too, but personally we’d prefer a gun with more accuracy if small-game hunting were on the schedule. The SR22 had large ambidextrous safety levers that dropped the hammer when pressed downward to the safe position. If you want a good plinker the SR22 and M&P22 are proven models. Two magazines came with our test gun, one with a flat bottom and one with a PPK-like extension. DA/SA Pistol . Our Team Said: We ended up being not so fond of the Ruger. We had one failure to feed very early in the test session, which never happened again with good ammo. The impact could be fine-tuned as necessary by changing the front sight. Ruger SR22 Walther PPK .22 lr ("original" post war steel version, not the pot metal thingy by Umarex) Walther PPQ M2 .22lr Since we don't have an "ammuntion crunch" here in Europe, getting my hands on high quality .22lr ammo is no big deal. Then (yep!) The Walther put this fine ammo into ten-shot groups of 2.6 inches and 2.8 inches respectively. The gun shot a touch low for us, so we elected to change the front sight. Vous pouvez opter pour la version à canon de 4 It may be possible to do so without that tool, but we could not do it. The Ruger, with the same test setup, gave groups of 1.7 inches and 2.3 inches The Ruger also failed to feed both types of match ammo, which we expected. 9 0 0. SR22. Ruger’s mechanical design is a totally different approach to essentially the same external package. I bought a Ruger SR22 and decided I really like this class of handgun: tacti-cool 22 … Customary … Unless of course like most of us you just have to have a new pistol and subscribe to the manly position that "He who dies with the most toys wins". The Ruger’s 10-round magazines (two per gun) were a bit easier to load than the Walther’s because they had a bump out either side that made it easy to press down the follower using two fingers instead of one. Apr 22, 2020 #1. I lived in Berlin for several years, flying the IGS for PanAm. We had an occasional failure to fire, caused by some of our test ammo being quite old. Compare Views. With the gun empty of all ammo, we put lots of thumb pressure on the cocked hammer and pressed the trigger until the hammer fell. Removing the original sight was easy by poking it out with a screwdriver from the inside, with the gun being disassembled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. (130yards), >Please don't get mad if I have made some spelling/grammatical errors, since I am not a native speaker.<, Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy, and taste good with catsup - George of Lod, Year of Our Lord 297. The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? What would have impressed us mightily is if Ruger (or Walther) had attempted to copy the original Walther PPK for the 22LR, and brought it off nicely at a good sale price. New Walther PPKS .22 vs Ruger LCP II .22 any owners here? It annoyed us to much we tried an old gunsmith’s trick on it that helped it a lot. Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by WVGunman, Apr 7, 2018. A forum community dedicated to all firearm owners and enthusiasts. The sights were just fine. You can lower the hammer by grasping it firmly with thumb and index finger on its sides, and pressing the trigger. Joined Nov 28, 2013 Messages 1,110 Likes 1,190 Location Mass Northshore. The Ruger had the odd condition that if the trigger were pressed with the mag removed, the trigger would go rearward and stay there. Compare the dimensions and specs of Walther PPK and Walther PPK/s. We tried a final test on both guns. I think the SR-22 is the most reliable 22 auto pistol sold in my opinion.I shoot the 1255ft.per second stuff and have never shot it with standard velocity 1000ft.per second ammo. It seems like people have either had great … Compare Views. It’s a delight to the eye, very busy yet business-like in its look. This is similar to the takedown for the PPK, but the recoil spring is not around the barrel here, it’s on a small rod that falls out when you remove the slide. They are also viable for training new shooters, or for keeping one’s eye in on rapid-fire shooting of multiple targets, at very low cost. That might be enough reason for a potential buyer to avoid them. Welcome to The Firearms Forum Gunner. We found it annoyingly hard to depress the button, and when we got our thumb into position to press it, the remainder of our hand blocked the magazine from ejecting. We suspect Walther could modify this setup to match that use by Ruger, to eliminate the need for the slave rod. The gun could not be carried cocked and locked. MODEL: CALIBER: BARREL LENGTH: TRIGGER PULL: DA/SA TRIGGER TRAVEL: CAPACITY: OVERALL LENGTH: HEIGHT: SAFETY: WIDTH: WEIGHT EMPTY: 5030320.22 … An original Walther pistol in 22 is rare and very collectible. We did not like the ambidextrous magazine release on the Ruger. VS. Walther . The simple fix was to cycle the hammer again with the DA trigger on the P22. I could get past the cheap finish and the cheapo metal used in the slide, after all, it is a .22 and not a larger bore caliber. This is a difficult trick to manage for any handgun, because differing ammo selections, test conditions, individual pistol variations, and matchups can magnify the flaws found in any product, making it hard to get a top grade again and again. We generally used a finger on each side of the mag release to get the mag out of the gun. "It is their right and duty to be at all times armed." Sig Mosquito vs Ruger SR22 vs Walther P22 Thread starter alan226; Start date Nov 9, 2014; 1; 2; 3; Next. It was light and beautiful and felt great in the hand. They rent all of these and they never have any problems with it. The top of its anodized slide was smooth and semi-gloss, instead of the Walther’s dead-flat black with longitudinal serrations. By the way - 20 meters is 22 yards - a meter being just shy of 40 inches, so 20 is 800 inches, divided by 36. The safety blocks the hammer from striking the firing pin, and also locks the firing pin so the gun can’t discharge. That’s the weak point of this design, because you need a “tool” in the form of a slave rod to capture the spring before you can reassemble the gun. One reader wrote that he had trouble keeping the magazine in the gun whilst wearing gloves, or with a shooter who had fat fingers. The current grip, which we left on there, had small raised rubber ribs that added a measure of traction. Or you can change the barrel for a longer one, at extra cost for the extra parts. It feeds/fires all types of common .22lr. Le Walther P22 est un pistolet .22lr équipé d’une platine double action/simple action plutôt agréable et d’une hausse 3 points réglable en dérive uniquement. We thought that was entirely adequate. Had, for a short while, a 22/45, but (unlike the advertising) it never felt like a 1911's grip, and the plastic frame just felt bad. Compare the dimensions and specs of Ruger SR22 and Walther PPK/s. The SA trigger pull averaged 4.8 pounds with a modest 0.38 inches of take-up and a very quick reset. Either the buttons need to be longer or the frame needs to be relieved to make it easier to change mags. I have found that this little .22 needs to be kept … usp9, Jan 4, 2013 #3. ryno31 Member. Then with the recoil spring and rod in place in the frame, we fit the forward part of the recoil spring around the slave rod, inserted the barrel in its hole, and the gun went together easily. We finally put it in location and rapped it with a stick, and in it went. However, the innards of the Ruger were quite different from those of the Walther. Everything looked good, we took our pix, and it was time to reassemble the P22. With the gun apart, we found excellent workmanship inside. By far it was easier to use a finger of the weak hand to press the button. Does it have enough accuracy? It also has practically 0 aftermarket, probably because the internals are incredibly complicated. On December 23, 2020, Marvin G. Richardson, associate deputy director (ADD) of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (BATFE), withdrew the “notice... Write CSS OR LESS and hit save. 1 of 3 Go to page. Go. Joined: Aug 20, 2012 Messages: 158. usp9, Jan 4, 2013 #3. ryno31 Member. A slight press with hand pressure on a proper-size punch got out the rear grip’s retaining pin, and we easily installed the flatter housing. At this point I'm leaning towards just returning it tomorrow before I go shoot the Stevens 300 Savage Arms .22 I also bought today (I have … The frame is dead black, just like that on the Walther, but the aluminum slide is more of a semi-gloss. A variety of lights can be put on there, but we fail to see the need for a light on a 22 handgun. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. The steel frame and the grip angle are excellent. We did this a number of times and that took care of some of the creep. I bought a Ruger SR22 and decided I really like this class of handgun: tacti-cool 22 autoloaders. Fort du succès de son PPQ, Walther propose en aujourd'hui une version équivalente chambrée en .22 LR. 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Another control is the slide lock, which holds the slide rearward after the last shot. Walther’s signature accuracy and reliability come standard whether you’re shooting suppressed or unsuppressed though! Like the Walther, it ran 100 percent. Have only run Blazer through it. No one makes that gun today, so far as we know. If we were picky, we’d have the rear notch a tad narrower, but as it was it was fast to use. The PPK/S 22 may turn out to be one, too. The Walther P22 is a crappy potmetal gun that isn't even made by Walther. At the time, Walther was making no .22 PPks, but their French licensee was. How does the new Ruger stack up against the Walther P22? We don’t know how to accurize them, or if that’s possible. Back in 2009 my son and I saw a Walther P22 that was all black. Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by WVGunman, Apr 7, 2018. Thread starter oldblues; Start date Apr 22, 2020; O. oldblues Well-Known Member. In short, the grip traction of the Walther was superior. Handgun Search; Tabletop Compare; Contribute; Contact; Walther . The controls are simple and straightforward. I have a Mark I and a Mark II. Walther makes it easy to install a silencer-threaded barrel where those are legal. It was completely reliable in our limited shooting, and shot very well, with many five-shot groups going around an inch at 15 yards. Apr 22, 2020 #1. meters?? On the range we had no problems with the gun except with the Federal Classic ammo. The final choice of front sight would depend on the final selection of the very best ammo for the gun. We found the magazine release to be annoyingly hard to use. We tested with five types of ammunition. As with all Walther pistols, the PPK/s .22 also has a lifetime warranty to put your mind at ease while on the range all day. We found both guns had distinct preferences for one or another type of ammo. We don’t recommend that method. The gun is covered with serrations, angled metal and plastic, notches, grooves, and on the grip, pebble-graining. There’s also a rail under the muzzle for a light, sort of a Picatinny rail, with one notch. If the trigger had been clean and a pound or more lighter, we would have liked the gun better. While one of us was in Alaska running a trap line, the handgun was kept warm in a shoulder holster. Unless otherwise noted, these reviews carry the guns’ prices at the time of the original review. PPK. Apr 22, 2020 #1. We submit that handguns ought never to be fired with gloves. Neither gun could be fired with the magazine removed. Next Last. Thread starter oldblues; Start date Apr 22, 2020; O. oldblues Well-Known Member. Inserting the magazine activated the trigger-return spring. Like the Walther, the Ruger had a rail under the muzzle for a light or laser sight. Customary Metric . I’ve always liked the looks and function of the PPK. That’s neither a fault of gun nor ammo. The Walther P22 vs the Smith&Wesson M&P-22 vs the Ruger SR22 vs the Steyr RFP etc. At this point I'm leaning towards just returning it tomorrow before I go shoot the Stevens 300 Savage Arms .22 I also bought today (I have no worries about that one). I own two Walther TPH 22s and they are incredibly well-made steel pistols, no Zamak. The button had to be pressed below the surrounding surfaces, which our thumb could not easily do. Windage was easy to correct with the screw-adjustable rear sight. Taking the Ruger apart involved clearing it, then opening a swinging-door-type catch located in (you guessed it) exactly the same place as the one on the Walther. (Ruger warned against match ammo in the gun’s instruction manual.) PPK/s. Ruger indeed got good rep. What's the trigger pull like? It is absolutely up to German standards of fit, finish, and function. There were three white dots. Thumb cocking either gun was not easy, the Ruger being harder to cock. If your objective is training you'd best have two or three pistols that are the same make and family. SR22. Joined Nov 18, 2013 Messages 497 Reactions 4 Points 18. foot? Or if you’re lazy, just press the trigger with the gun pointed in a safe direction. (If Ruger or Walther decided to do it, we suspect a great many fans of James Bond would buy the guns just for the fact that they look like the famous PPK. The Walther PPK/S .22 offers affordable range practice while still having the same manual of arms as larger-caliber models. Each held ten rounds. As for the mag dropping out of the Walther, we could not get it to come out accidentally no matter how thick a glove we wore, nor by pressing down hard on the release with our trigger finger inserted. DA/SA Pistol . The dealer had 10 … In all cases, the slide was not driven back far enough to pick up the next round. A laser sight there might make some sense for those with compromised vision. The slide is aluminum alloy, as is the barrel-retention block and the slide rails inside the frame. The same thing happened with the Ruger. you pull back on the slide, lift it, and slip it off the barrel to the front. We wanted more accuracy than we got. We did not like the DA trigger at all. Reassembly was easier because the Ruger has a shorter, stiffer recoil spring wrapped around a rod of similar length to that of the Walther. Forum, Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 3290 W. Big Beaver Rd. We chose number 2. The overall look of the Ruger was attractive. I highly recommend it. 2 front sight, the gun shot just above the point of aim at 15 yards, which is what we wanted. As with the Walther, the inside of the gun looked as good as the outside. However, these grip “bumps” were not on the front of the front strap, where much of the grip pressure is placed if you know how to shoot a handgun. Had quite a few feed failures in the first 200 rounds and has gotten much better since then with same ammo. The Walther did not reliably cycle the Federal Gold Medal Match, and had one failure to feed with the Eley Ten-X. But the DA trigger made me go bummer. Getting the gun to hit where we aimed was easier with the Ruger’s fully adjustable rear sight. I spent many layovers in Zurich, loved traveling thru Zermatt back in the 60's, and always felt at home with the Swiss. If you get a chance to buy one, do. Ruger SR22 Walther PPK .22 lr ("original" post war steel version, not the pot metal thingy by Umarex) Walther PPQ M2 .22lr Since we don't have an "ammuntion crunch" here in Europe, getting my hands on high quality .22lr ammo is no big deal. The SA is acceptable, but when compared with my Ruger SR22, the ppk/s fails miserably on all counts: fit, finish and operation. Joined: Aug 20, 2012 Messages: 158. 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